Trumpism After Trump

 ​New York Times columnist M Gessen explains why the midterm rebuke of President Trump does not mean Trumpism is over and what it takes to defeat autocracy. Also on today’s show: Pulitzer Prize-winning novelist Elizabeth Strout on the personal and political crises shaping America and why she turns to fiction to explore them. Grammy-winning musician Jon Batiste speaks with Walter Isaacson about the American South, its extraordinary natural world and his new documentary, “American Amazon.” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices